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Beyond The Stethoscope

Apr 2, 2019

Favorite quotes of the episode:

As I was reading the research, I thought, ‘Women have it really hard in the vet med industry.’

“SWSWSW: So What what everyone else think’s, Somewhere out there, Someone is Waiting for me to make a difference.”



Dr. Clint Neill is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Agricultural and Applied Economics at Virginia Tech. Dr. Neill received his Ph.D. in Agricultural Economics from Oklahoma State in 2017. His research focuses on labor markets and food system economics. Specifically, he has worked on analyzing the veterinarian industry and what factors affect veterinarian income. Dr. Neill’s current work on Veterinary Economics is focusing on the factors that affect the gender wage gap. He has published several academic papers on the topic of Veterinary Economics and plans to continue this line of research for a long time.  Dr. Neill has worked with the AVMA Economics Division for almost five years and has a passion to help all veterinarians succeed within the industry.

In regards to food system economics, his research focuses on consumer perceptions of food labeling, consumer reactions to health information, and the economics of antimicrobial resistance. His passion for food economics began with his love to cook AND eat. Clint also holds an extension appointment. Through this appointment, he works with food business throughout Virginia in business planning and startup. He is originally from Texas and lives with a trouble-making Scottish Terrier (who has his own Instagram! @adventuresofsamthescottie).

Episode Overview

I kicked off 2019 with a promise to discuss big issues, big ideas and provide real-world actionable solutions that we can all implement in our daily lives as busy professionals.

So often, we don’t know what we don’t know and sometimes we just don’t know how to start a conversation about important and dynamic topics. 

These podcasts are meant to start a meaningful conversation so if you would like to see additional guests share another viewpoint around any of these topics please send an email to with your comments and suggestions for future podcast guests and topics.  I absolutely cannot wait to hear from you and look forward to your insights and thoughtful comments.  I will cite all articles referenced in this podcast in our show notes so you don’t have to stop what you are doing to scramble to find a pen and paper. 

So with that, let’s jump right in. 


3:33 Perspective: The jobs themselves are already gendered even when the majority of a profession is of an opposite gender.

6:48 Discussion around gender norms are still maintained even when the workers are of the opposite gender.

8:23 Brief mention of some laws related to gender equality and overview gender breakdown across professions. Overarching issues and perspective.

14:40 Women with children make less, why? “Expected gender roles tend to impact women’s income more than men’s income.”

16:55 How do we implement policies that eliminate gender bias by hiring managers?

20:00 Clint’s work and publications, what we know now.

22:00 New veterinarians and starting salaries.  The Data Says…women veterinarians make on average $2000 less than men all other factors being equal.

27:25 We are leaving the math world to talk about the gender wage gap, opinions and insights.

30:00 Future research needs: Is there a generational difference between how pet owners interact with female vs. male veterinarians?

32:05 Unconscious Bias and how do we make it conscious?

33:10 “Veterinary medicine is not feminized, it is female dominated but remains masculinized.”

36:17 Next Steps,  generational differences, how we value our time, work-life balance and job satisfaction.

44:44 5 Questions Segment

Q1. We know that the most successful and happy people have a morning routine, what do you do each morning or evening that sets your day up for success? “I have to get up a little earlier, but cooking a real breakfast and thinking about what I have planned for the day has really improved my day."

Q2. What's your definition of Success? “Success for me is 2-fold. First it’s learning from failure which brings me to my second point of never giving up.”

Q3. What's your definition of Happiness? “Do what you love for a living and never work a day in your life.”

Q4. What do you know now that you wish you would have known 10 years ago? “Don’t let other people’s opinions define who you are.”  “SWSWSW: So What what everyone else think’s, Somewhere out there, Someone is Waiting for me to make a difference.”

Q5. What do you think is the biggest issue facing busy professionals today? “This idea of work life harmony. The best advice I’ve gotten was to take a week, no phone, and go away on a vacation every year.”

Connect with Clint on Linked In:

OnTwitter @DocAgEcon

Sam the Scottie on Instagram @adventuresofsamthescottie


Irvine, L., & Vermilya, J. R. (2010). Gender Work in a Feminized Profession: The Case of Veterinary Medicine. Gender & Society, 24(1), 56–82.

Clinton L. Neill, Rodney B. Holcomb & B. Wade Brorsen (2018): Current market conditions for veterinary services in the U.S, Applied Economics, DOI: 10.1080/00036846.2018.1489518 

Hegewisch, Ariane & Liepmann, Hannah & Hayes, Jeffrey & Hartmann, Heidi. (2010). Separate and Not Equal? Gender Segregation in the Labor Market and the Gender Wage Gap.  

NEILL, C., HOLCOMB, R., & BRORSEN, B. (2017). STARTING ON THE RIGHT FOOT: DOES SCHOOL CHOICE AFFECT VETERINARIAN STARTING SALARIES? Journal of Agricultural and Applied Economics, 49(1), 120-138. doi:10.1017/aae.2016.28         


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