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Beyond The Stethoscope

Mar 25, 2019


Favorite quote of the episode: “I wish I would have known about authenticity 10 years ago. To be able to do what I want, say what I want and to really own it.”


We are here today with Dr. Lisa Greenhill who currently serves as the Senior Director for Institutional Research and Diversity at the Association of American Veterinary Medical Colleges (AAVMC).  Dr. Greenhill directs the Association’s internal study of academic veterinary medicine through collaborative research, analysis and publication efforts.  She also manages the DVM: DiVersity Matters initiative, which promotes increased representation of underrepresented persons in academic veterinary medicine, inclusive academic environments and the inclusion of diversity related professional competencies in the DVM curriculum. 

Dr. Greenhill previously served nearly three years with the AAVMC, during which time she managed legislative and regulatory policy issues including agriculture production, biomedical research, professional education, food safety, and environmental health.  She holds a Masters in Public Administration with a concentration in public policy from George Mason University in Fairfax, VA and a Doctorate in Education from Benedictine University in Lisle, IL.  She is mom to an amazing daughter and a terrier mix.


2:00 Episode Overview

I kicked off 2019 with a promise to discuss big issues, big ideas and provide real-world actionable solutions that we can all implement in our daily lives as busy professionals.

So often, we don’t know what we don’t know and sometimes we just don’t know how to start a conversation about important and dynamic topics. 

These podcasts are meant to start a meaningful conversation so if you would like to see additional guests share another viewpoint around any of these topics please send an email to with your comments and suggestions for future podcast guests and topics.  I absolutely cannot wait to hear from you and look forward to your insights and thoughtful comments.  I will cite all articles referenced in this podcast in our show notes so you don’t have to stop what you are doing to scramble to find a pen and paper. 

So with that, let’s jump right in. 


Dr. Greenhill is here with me today to help us discuss leadership and help us improve our leadership skills through gaining a better understanding of inclusion and diversity and helping us to better understand what diversity and inclusion really means, what it looks like and how can each of us make a positive impact on the world around us. 

More diverse teams produce really cool ideas and more profitability.

For example, A Forbes article from January 2018 shared current research stating, “…gender is not the only side of the story. Companies with more culturally and ethnically diverse executive teams were 33% more likely to see better-than-average profits. At the board of directors level, more ethnically and cultural diverse companies were 43% more likely to see above-average profits, showing a significant correlation between diversity and performance.” 

5:00 As busy professionals, hiring managers, or members of a team, how can we be positive influences in our workplace?

6:00 How to find and tap into talent pools outside of your current networks.

8:30 What is unconscious bias? 

11:20 How can we become more aware of our own unconscious biases’?

Harvard Project Implicit is one free tool.

12:17 I want to share some information about your column, Diversity Toolbox, for Today’s Veterinary Business magazine. One of my favorite articles is from August of 2018, titled Fairness and Equity for all.  In it, you talk about applying an equity framework to decision making to help mitigate disparities. 

Can you share some examples about how we could apply equity frameworks in our daily lives?

14:00 Discussion of grit and resiliency.

16:00 In preparing for this podcast you shared with me some journal articles that we could share with our audience.  One that I found to be particularly powerful, insightful and quite simply found myself wondering how I was going to restrain myself from reading the entire, 6-page article to our listeners was an article by Alice Eagly and Jean Chin published in the April 2010 American Psychologist called Diversity and Leadership in a Changing world.  

They provide a wide-ranging overview of this topic in an interesting and easy to read format. I want to share their final thoughts with our listeners.  “We advocate ending the intellectual segregation of considerations of gender, race, ethnicity, sexuality, and culture from mainstream leadership theory and their treatment as a separate domain of study. To counter this segregation, we recommend that scholars of leadership contemplate how their theories might better address diversity concerns and that scholars of diversity study leadership because this knowledge has considerable potential to illuminate issues of race, ethnicity, gender, and culture.”

20:15 Lisa’s Podcast Diversity and Inclusion On Air; discussion on Intersectionality and integration of leadership and diversity research.

21:22 And finally, I’d like to talk about an amazing idea raised by Quinetta Roberson in her Ted Talk, The science of inclusion.  She reminds us that the term inclusion can still be exclusionary and maybe a better term would be fusion.  The energy generated from fusion produces one of the most powerful impacts in the universe, so maybe we can use our diverse experiences to have a powerful impact on the world.

24:00 How do we implement diversity and inclusion from a leadership perspective? Act Right. Practice behaviors that actually respect one another’s humanity, identity and value the differences we each bring to the table.

26:26 Authenticity, think about bringing your whole self into a room.  Be very clear and do some self-reflection on what skills you have and that you bring to the table and honor that as well.


27:28 5 Questions Segment

Q1. We know that the most successful and happy people have a morning routine, what do you do each morning or evening that sets your day up for success? “Hit the snooze button, walk my dog a few miles, and have our quiet time.”

Q2. What's your definition of Success? “Success for me is Impact”

Q3. What's your definition of Happiness? “Happiness is a good glass of red wine, excellent piece of chocolate cake, a good movie or a good book, and time with my family.”

Q4. What do you know now that you wish you would have known 10 years ago? “I wish I would have known about authenticity 10 years ago. To be able to do what I want, say what I want and to really own it.”

Q5. What do you think is the biggest issue facing busy professionals today? “Work life balance and work creep.” Love/hate relationship with technology.


Forbes Jan 2018: More Evidence that Company Diversity Leads to Better Profits

Harvard Project Implicit

Diversity Toolbox, for Today’s Veterinary Business.

Balancing Inclusiveness and Diversity in Teams: How Leader Inclusiveness Affects Performance through Status and Team Identity

The Science of Inclusion: Quinetta Roberson at TedxVilanovaU

Diversity and Leadership in a Changing World (2010)

Leadership Competencies for Managing Diversity

Grit, Angela Duckworth (Book, Ted Talk)

Veterinary Facebook Groups mentioned.  Please contact the group admins for permission to post your content to ensure the integrity of the groups is maintained.

Multicultural Veterinary Medical Association

Native American Veterinary Medical Association

Pride VMC

Veterinarians as One for an Inclusive Community for Empowerment (VOICE)


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